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Re: Yahoo headline: "College star flopping for pros" = Tebow FAIL!
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Quote from: Russ in J-Ville on February 03, 2010, 04:03:18 pm
I dont think that every single player that commits to a Florida, Texas, USC, etc, honestly thinks that they are just using that time period as a stepping stone to the NFL. Some of them do, sure, but its not a coaches responsibility to teach his player how to succeed at professional football. Its his job to make sure his players perform well in the classroom and on the football field (with MUCH more imphasis on the latter) while enrolled at their school. Some guys have skill sets that excel on the college level and some have skill sets that excel in the pro level.
Actually, EVERY player committing to Florida and USC is dreaming of the NFL and aspiring to play in the NFL. If you're committing to Bowling Green or University of Houston, I'd buy that argument. But these are the elite teams in college football. Everybody they recruit has the potential to make it to the next level.
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Quote from: Dog on February 03, 2010, 04:03:51 pm
Tebow's mechanics are so terrible, his footwork sucks, his throwing motion is predictable and his inability to catch a snap in the shotgun is laughable. Knowing this, don't you think that Urb failed him by not mixing in a few shotgun plays, working with his footwork and throwing motion to improve is pocket game?
Even our shitty defense made him look average at best.
Mallet can work under center but his backup ran the spread in HS and three years into college still fumbles every other snap under center.
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Quote from: Dog on February 03, 2010, 03:55:28 pm
On national signing day, when thousands of high school athletes are choosing which school they want to go to, they're going to pick the school and the coaching staff that gives them the best chance to play at another level.
I think anybody who looks at this as a one-sided issue, calling people idiots and saying its absurd to think differently, are the ones who are being obtuse. Coaches have obligations to the kids they coach, and its made damn clear when they sit in the family room in front of the parents and make all sorts of promises.
The elite players perhaps, but they're still picking a school where they'll feel comfortable and where they'll be happy at the school, not just in the football program. That still doesn't mean that it's the coach's repsonsibility to teach every player on the team everything they need to know to play in the NFL.
Now if Tebow's mechanics, footwork, etc. is especially sloppy, perhaps Urb could have worked with him more than he did or brought someone in to help him. But Urb also has a responsibility to the other 55-60 kids on that team, not just Timmy, to help them in non-football areas of life.
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Re: Yahoo headline: "College star flopping for pros" = Tebow FAIL!
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Quote from: Dog on February 03, 2010, 04:05:27 pm
Quote from: Russ in J-Ville on February 03, 2010, 04:03:18 pm
I dont think that every single player that commits to a Florida, Texas, USC, etc, honestly thinks that they are just using that time period as a stepping stone to the NFL. Some of them do, sure, but its not a coaches responsibility to teach his player how to succeed at professional football. Its his job to make sure his players perform well in the classroom and on the football field (with MUCH more imphasis on the latter) while enrolled at their school. Some guys have skill sets that excel on the college level and some have skill sets that excel in the pro level.
Actually, EVERY player committing to Florida and USC is dreaming of the NFL and aspiring to play in the NFL. If you're committing to Bowling Green or University of Houston, I'd buy that argument. But these are the elite teams in college football. Everybody they recruit has the potential to make it to the next level.
of course they are "dreaming about it". what O0 doesnt dream about being rich and being a pro athlete. but i doubt they all honestly think they will get there. although O0 have smaller brains that whiteys, so its possible.
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Quote from: Jeff in MD on February 03, 2010, 04:12:30 pm
Quote from: Dog on February 03, 2010, 03:55:28 pm
On national signing day, when thousands of high school athletes are choosing which school they want to go to, they're going to pick the school and the coaching staff that gives them the best chance to play at another level.
I think anybody who looks at this as a one-sided issue, calling people idiots and saying its absurd to think differently, are the ones who are being obtuse. Coaches have obligations to the kids they coach, and its made damn clear when they sit in the family room in front of the parents and make all sorts of promises.
The elite players perhaps, but they're still picking a school where they'll feel comfortable and where they'll be happy at the school, not just in the football program. That still doesn't mean that it's the coach's repsonsibility to teach every player on the team everything they need to know to play in the NFL.
Now if Tebow's mechanics, footwork, etc. is especially sloppy, perhaps Urb could have worked with him more than he did or brought someone in to help him. But Urb also has a responsibility to the other 55-60 kids on that team, not just Timmy, to help them in non-football areas of life.
Doesn't Urb have a quarterbacks coach? Where is he in all this?
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Quote from: Dog on February 03, 2010, 04:19:27 pm
Quote from: Jeff in MD on February 03, 2010, 04:12:30 pm
Quote from: Dog on February 03, 2010, 03:55:28 pm
On national signing day, when thousands of high school athletes are choosing which school they want to go to, they're going to pick the school and the coaching staff that gives them the best chance to play at another level.
I think anybody who looks at this as a one-sided issue, calling people idiots and saying its absurd to think differently, are the ones who are being obtuse. Coaches have obligations to the kids they coach, and its made damn clear when they sit in the family room in front of the parents and make all sorts of promises.
The elite players perhaps, but they're still picking a school where they'll feel comfortable and where they'll be happy at the school, not just in the football program. That still doesn't mean that it's the coach's repsonsibility to teach every player on the team everything they need to know to play in the NFL.
Now if Tebow's mechanics, footwork, etc. is especially sloppy, perhaps Urb could have worked with him more than he did or brought someone in to help him. But Urb also has a responsibility to the other 55-60 kids on that team, not just Timmy, to help them in non-football areas of life.
Doesn't Urb have a quarterbacks coach? Where is he in all this?
It's Scot Loeffler. Clearly he's not a very good one.
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Re: Yahoo headline: "College star flopping for pros" = Tebow FAIL!
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Quote from: Dog on February 03, 2010, 04:05:27 pm
Quote from: Russ in J-Ville on February 03, 2010, 04:03:18 pm
I dont think that every single player that commits to a Florida, Texas, USC, etc, honestly thinks that they are just using that time period as a stepping stone to the NFL. Some of them do, sure, but its not a coaches responsibility to teach his player how to succeed at professional football. Its his job to make sure his players perform well in the classroom and on the football field (with MUCH more imphasis on the latter) while enrolled at their school. Some guys have skill sets that excel on the college level and some have skill sets that excel in the pro level.
Actually, EVERY player committing to Florida and USC is dreaming of the NFL and aspiring to play in the NFL. If you're committing to Bowling Green or University of Houston, I'd buy that argument. But these are the elite teams in college football. Everybody they recruit has the potential to make it to the next level.
My bigger difference in the player vs. you as a student is that did not give you free room and board to learn accounting. You had to pay and you paid a lot of money. That football player is being given the same education that you paid for. There is an advantage there.
While many dream of getting there not all kids choose a college based on the best way to get to the pros. If Teabow's main goal was to make the Pros then he should have recongized and attended a school that had a pro based offense instead of Florida.
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